The Times Black ICICI Bank Credit Card is a Super Premium Credit Card issued by ICICI Bank in association with Times Internet Ltd. and Visa. Chances are you would have stumbled upon the Times Black card already multiple times, thanks to the Times group marketing efforts.
Now getting to the question, is the Times Black card worth the hype? Here’s everything you need to know in detail:
Table of Contents
Overview
Type | Super Premium Credit Card |
Reward Rate | 2% + benefits |
Annual Fee | 20,000+GST |
Best for | International Travellers |
USP | Airport transfers & Concierge Services |
Ideally it’s meant for international travellers, as only those can make use of the benefits that comes with the card.
Fees
Joining Fee | 20,000 INR+GST |
Welcome Benefit | – 10,000 INR Easemytrip Hotel Voucher – Zomato Gold (1 Year) – Other un-attractive vouchers |
Renewal Fee | 20,000 INR+GST |
Renewal Benefit | Nil (not clear) |
Renewal Fee waiver | 25L INR |
Here are the detailed info of welcome vouchers:
Easemytrip Hotel Voucher (10,000 INR): It’s quite simple and hope it works as expected.
Atlys Voucher (10,000 INR): This is less-useful for most cardholders because it covers only the “Atlys fee” and not the “Embassy Fee”.
I’ve used Atlys for Egypt and UAE Visa’s recently and the “Atlys service fee” was under 1500 INR each. Assuming one wouldn’t travel too much in 1 year, the actual value you get is much lower than 10,000 INR. So I’m not even considering this as a benefit.
Same is the case with Onevasco’s doorstep Visa service. Onevasco is not a popular service anyway and I wouldn’t be comfortable in handling my Visa’s with any such 3rd party.
Also, this service is likely limited to certain cities, which is the case with VFS doorstep service that I explored sometime back.
Zomato Gold (1 Year): While this is decent one, I hope they allow extension of existing membership, as the voucher will expire in 3 months otherwise.
Toni & Guy (3,000 INR): While I don’t value this voucher, it might be useful for some. Problem for most is that travelling to the outlet itself sometimes costs over 1000 INR. I’ve never used this similar benefit on Amex Plat Charge either, even though I’ve held it for 4 Years.
Rewards
SPEND TYPE | REWARD RATE (FLIGHTS/HOTELS) | MAX. CAP ( PER STMT CYCLE) |
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Domestic Spends | 2% | Nil |
International Spends | 2.5% | Nil |
Utilities, Insurance, education, Gov. spends | 2% | 5,000 RP |
Accelerated rewards on travel (coming soon) | – | – |
- No rewards on rent & EMI transactions
The reward rate is quite low for a card that comes with 20K annual fee. But milestone benefits are there to take care of it pretty well.
Milestone Benefit
SPEND REQUIREMENT | Voucher Type | Voucher Value |
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2 Lakhs | Klook Voucher | 10,000 INR |
5 Lakhs | Airport Transfer (or) Heli ride | ~8,000 INR |
10 Lakhs | Tata CLiQ Luxury | 10,000 INR |
20 Lakhs | Ayatana Resorts | 20,000 INR |
Here are detailed info on each of these vouchers.
- Klook: It’s certainly good if you’re a traveller, assuming one can use it for booking tours. Most likely it will help to book international airport transfers as well, unless excluded.
- Airport Transfers / Heli Ride: It’s wonderful to see airport transfer benefit, but only limited to 2 times a year, in Innova. Alternatively one can take the Heli-ride, which will perhaps be the USP of the card if it goes well.
- Tata CLiQ Luxury Voucher: It’s similar to how we used to get one on Axis Magnus in the past.
- Ayatana Resorts: Stay at Ayatana Coorg/Ooty only. I see their rates might go upto ~25K INR, so one might need to spend little extra for the stay.
Ideally speaking, spending till 10L makes sense for most, assuming one wouldn’t travel to Coorg/Ooty just for a stay.
So that’s about 30K INR in value via milestones, which is 3% reward rate on top of 2% via regular rewards.
That’s a decent 5% return on spend you may think. But well, not to forget that we’re only getting 10K value with joining fee. So, we can’t assume that way, rather do some complex calculations to arrive at the card’s reward rate, which we’ll see in a minute.
Lounge Access
ACCESS TYPE | VIA | LIMIT | GUEST ACCESS |
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Domestic Lounge Access | Visa | Unlimited | – |
International Lounge Access | Priority Pass | Unlimited | – |
Apart from primary cardholders, add-on cardholders are also given unlimited lounge access for both domestic & international. However, no guest access is provided.
That aside, chances are this card might be one of the few to be eligible for the VIP lounge access at 080 lounge in Blr airport, just like the other ICICI Emeralde Credit cards.
Forex Markup Fee
- Foreign Currency Markup Fee: 1.49%+GST = 1.76%
- Rewards: 2.5%
- Net return: 0.7% (gain)
While the card is decent for forex transactions as seen above, they could have easily given a higher reward rate or even lower forex markup fee to make it look attractive.
Events & Concierge Service
While invites to events (ET & Quorum events) are not really clear, I feel this is a missed opportunity to make it as a USP, given that ET conducts good number of events in a year. Only time will tell how this works in real life.
There appears to be iAssist & Criblife concierge services but again only time will tell how good these are, as they’re quite new to be experienced.
Other Benefits
- 1% Fuel Surcharge waiver upto 1000 INR per stmt
- Zero cancellation charges on flight and hotel bookings: Txn has to be done on card, only 4/5 star hotels, limited to max 2 incidents, upto 12,000 INR a year, domestic bookings only.
- Interflora 1000 INR voucher
I wish to give a medal to the one who thought this 1000 INR inter flora voucher would make sense for a 20K fee cardholder.
I feel that whoever designed the card “failed” to understand the “UHNI” segment and added benefits just like anyone would do for a 5K fee “retail” card.
Too many brands, too many t&c and having to redeem the benefits in 6 months makes life miserable. I wish they had limited set of partners like Klook, TataCliq, Avis and remove everything else from the card to make life simple and easy.
Is it worth it?
Assuming you spend 10L in a year, let’s do a quick math and see what we get:
BENEFIT | DESCRIPTION | VALUE (INR) |
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Welcome benefit | 10K EaseMyTrip Voucher | 10,000 |
Milestone – 2L | 10K Klook Voucher | 10,000 |
Milestone – 5L | Heli ride /Airport Transfers (assuming airport transfers) | 8,000 |
Milestone – 10L | 10K TataCliq Voucher | 10,000 |
Total | 38,000 |
So we pay ~24K INR and get 38K INR back, that’s about 14K INR gain or 1.4% gain on 10L spend on top of 2% regular rewards.
Together that’s 3.4% return on 10L spend, which is decent but doesn’t live up to the hype. One can simply get Axis Atlas and enjoy much more than 5% return on spend, at four times lower annual fee.
How to Apply?
- Apply online on Timesblack website
Application process is super smooth especially for existing ICICI credit card holders, just like how the ICICI Amazon Pay Credit Card application system works. It’s instant approval and you can have the card details immediately as well.
ICICI Times Black Card is perhaps the only super premium card in the industry with such instant approval. But well, more about it in a while.
The Concern
There are 2 major concerns with the Times Black ICICI Bank card.
#1 ICICI Bank Times Black Credit Card is the only Super Premium Credit card with virtually no entry barrier.
While this is good for some, generally this would lead to a catastrophic event, just like how Axis Magnus did to Axis Bank, from which the Bank is still yet to recover from the loss even after an year. I hope both brands know what they’re doing by opening the gates to “almost” everyone.
#2 It’s sad to see Times Group disappointing the super premium credit card space these days. First somehow they managed American Express to bundle all tiny benefits into Times Prime with Amex Plat Charge price hike and now this. I wish the Times Group understands that HNI segment has to have simple benefits that doesn’t eat up lot of time and energy to use a card.
It took me roughly 1 hour to even understand all the benefits and decide if it’s really right for me or not (it is not, for now). Someone capable of spending 20K for a credit card should not need more than 5 minutes to take a decision.
Bottomline
- Cardexpert Rating: 3.5/5
The Times Black ICICI Bank Credit Card is the first card by Times Group in the Super Premium segment. While they’ve tried to add so many benefits to the card for a better value proposition, they could have done it LOT better by adding few noteworthy benefits instead.
That said, for most HNI’s ICICI Emeralde Private Metal Credit Card is much better than the Times Black Card. But for those who are not eligible for the Emeralde Private, Times Black does make sense, especially when you don’t hold any other super premium credit cards in your wallet.
What’s your thoughts on the ICICI Times Black Credit Card? Feel free to share your thoughts in the comments below.
Beautifully put Siddharth.. I was in a similar situation. Did so much brainstorming and finally decided to give this one a pass. The card is “a big bowl of nothing” if one has any of the popular super premium cards market has to offer.
Totally agree with Nick.
What’s the VIP lounge part in BLR 080? Is it the Air India business class lounge or is there any seperate lounge inside?
It’s the one inside the 080 lounge itself, called The Courtyard, a relatively silent space.
The review is excellent, but giving 4 out of 5 rating is not. I would not give this card more than 2.5 out of 5 or may be just 2.
Alright, let me drop it to 3.8 now.
The thing is, when you weed out unnecessary benefits, it’s still decent for those who don’t have super premium cards, hence not going as low as 2.5 🙂
Though I respect your opinion, but I can’t understand that with low reward rate, no provision for accelerated rewards, complicated and mostly useless benefits, how this card deserves anything more than 2.5. And I smell something fishy here that this so called super premium card is so easily available to everyone. Exclusivity is the pre requisite of any super premium card.
Barring the unlimited lounge access and some premium benefits, IMO if someone is able to pay ~24K for a card, I am pretty sure they are eligible for other premium cards. Just having a premium card for the sake of it would be silly and I believe returns should matter most. For experiences, there are better cards for HNIs.
So it still feels like a 2.5 IMO.
Alright, dropping the rating further from 3.8 to 3.5
Hope it stays there, lol.
It’s surprising that Emeralde Pvt Metal gets 3% regular rewards and Times Black gets only 2% . This despite the fact that EPM gives equivalent points for the annual fee, while TB is so expensive. After all the math, it potentially rewards only as much as regular spends on Infinia or DCB.
Anyway, have few queries on TB :
1. Is wallet load rewarded? I don’t see it in exclusions.
2. Is the first year cost 20K +gst or 40K +gst, not clear if annual fee is levied over and above joining fee.
Nothing comes close to INFINA. It still remains the queen of super premium cards.
Exactly. Magnus hogged the limelight for some time but could not sustain.
Hey Siddharth, the website doesn’t mention anything about rent payments being excluded. Where did you get that info from?
It’s there on T&C page of ICICI Bank portal.
Have applied for the card and await its delivery. In two minds whether to keep it or cancel it before activation.
1) It would appear that the 10K benefit is offered by BOTH Atlys & OneVasco. If that’s indeed the case then one can possibly come close to extracting 10K value from Atlys & OneVasco. Atlys can be used for countries where a visit to VFS or Consulate isn’t necessary and OneVasco could be used for the other set of countries like UK etc.
2) Regarding Quorum club, to me it looks like there is no access to the club if one doesn’t become a member (by utilising the 20% off promotion). That’s probably fair, but in that case the card marketing should never have said “Exclusive Access”. A simple one liner saying 20% off on joining fees would have been much more accurate. I would love to be proven wrong on this one, since Quorum membership in Mumbai is 4.5 lakhs plus 18% GST. Even if the card holder gets access to their events and F&B outlets it’s a very good benefit.
3) Spending 2 lakhs on the ICICI card and getting a 10K Voucher from Klook seems an easy task. Didn’t find any sneaky details in the utilisation conditions of the Klook voucher.
4) Don’t foresee any reason to spend 10 or 20 L on this card, hence those milestone benefits are of no interest to me.
5) As of now spending 2 lakhs and getting benefits worth 24K (10K Easemytrip, 3K Tony & Guy, 1K Interflora and 10K Klook) to offset the fee seems to be the best case scenario. Details regarding everything else seem to be as hazy as the Mumbai weather these days.
Hi Sid,
I think the reward rate “could be” ~2%. The card earns 2% reward points which will be around 1rp = 1re if redeemed for vouchers(not sure which) but 1rp = 0.40p if redeemed for cash back.
My ICICI bank account got upgraded to Private banking, while the Times black card is yet to be dispatched. That’s a nice touch, making the overall offering a bit more compelling and a bit more hard to turn down :).
Are you saying the card comes with ICICI Private banking upgrade? That’s sounds interesting if true.
Yes Sameer, sounds interesting if true. Amit/Sid pls confirm
@Sid the wallet loads are part of utility and earns 2% up to 5k?
What are the benefits of ICICI Private banking ?
It comes with a Visa Infinite debit card that has a better lounge access policy as compared to their other debit cards & a higher ATM withdrawal limit. Gives you access to an RM, a service RM and a product specialist, if that matters to you.
Hi Sid
The way it is worded in MITC and FAQ #5, i am thinking towards 47.2 rather than 24k as the fee of this card.
would love your understanding on this
Can we take statement credit of the 2% reward this card gives ?
Yes you can. In case of statement credit each reward point is worth Rs 0.40